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Wheelman [PT]
28-04-2004, 22:04
In not a geek (http://iamnotageek.com/printer.php?aid=6)

Today I'm bringing you guys an alert and letting you know how badly DFI has dropped the ball on a couple models of their boards. Not only did DFI miss it but so did countless people who have posted reviews of the board. With the little plastic clips on the CPU socket being so easy to break from wear and tear alot of manufacturers are using the little holes around the socket to mount their heatsinsks. Everybody who's into watercooling uses the holes around the CPU socket. What happens where there's a problem with them?

The boards:
DFI Infinity NFII Ultra
DFI Lanparty NFII Ultra B


Infinity:
http://iamnotageek.com/images/dfi/image003.jpg
http://iamnotageek.com/images/dfi/image001.jpg
http://iamnotageek.com/images/dfi/image002.jpg

Lanparty:
http://iamnotageek.com/images/dfi_topright.jpg
http://iamnotageek.com/images/dfi_topleft.jpg
http://iamnotageek.com/images/dfi_bottomleft.jpg

The images on the right are of the lanparty board. On both of these boards there are multiple resistors dangerously close to the holes. When you're mounting a waterblock or any of the better air coolers you are going to have to be EXTREMELY careful or you could potentially break or break off one of these resistors. Some heatsinks and waterblock's use a straight screw bolt up from back side of PCB. You'll have to check with the manufacturer before you buy anything.

Why is this an article you say? DFI is marketing the LANparty board specifically at the kind of people using some of these big heatsinks and waterblocks. The same crowd the board is marketed towards are the kind of people that want to use these holes. I haven't seen anything on the front pages of any news sites about this. All of the users of these boards need to know they should proceed with extreme caution. If they don't, they can very easily render their board unusable and have to RMA it. I have heard from several sources that they are not having a problem with exchanging the boards. Who wants to deal with an RMA?

There's been a lot of people actually breaking the resistors while installing their heatsink! It is possible to install most of the heatsinks that use these holes if you're extremely careful and do a little bit of modifying. My suggestion is to use the clip on heatsinks with these boards! Unless you're an experienced user just avoid the high end heatsinks with these boards. If you're planning on watercooling I'd probably avoid these boards completely.

DFI made one significant design mistake to bring down an otherwise great board. There's nothing DFI can do to fix this. All that can be done is to alert YOU the consumer. I have heard from several people that DFI did RMA their boards with the broken resistor. I do not know for sure if they will take back any board that this happens to. I'll post the official statement from DFI when I get it.

Se percebi a modo isto pode ser problematico se forem usados os buracos para fixar um bruto cooler.

Vejam os restos do artigo no link lá em cima.

NPinho
28-04-2004, 22:12
Tbread em stick...


pessoal, tenham atençao a isto, caso danifiquem as resistencias a garantia nao cobre...


cumps!

EstilhaS
01-05-2004, 00:00
já não sei se compro a DFI Lanparty NFII Ultra B ia meter um Thermalright SP97 atravéz do adaptador neo back plate, mas mesmo assim depois de ter lido a noticia, fiquei algo preocupado, não estou com muita vontade de largar 150 euros para a board "partir-se" com o peso do heatsink =\ ..

Pretender
02-05-2004, 02:19
Tive agora a ver o site da thermalright e o meu slk 800-u não pode ser usado :s

alias, pode mas desde que com o neoplate
DFI NF2 ULTRA B - NO *Can use NEO back-plate to install
INFINITY NF2 ULTRA - NO *Can use NEO back-plate to install

http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_neobackplate.htm


onde é que posso comprar esse "acessorio", o neo-plate? a propria thermalright devia fornecer gratuitamente a quem comprou um slk800-u (ou sp-97) que tb não dá...

embora a culpa tb seja dos pseudo-engenheiros da dfi que ao fazerem o layout da board, fizeram-no com o olho de trás :mad:

EstilhaS
02-05-2004, 09:12
Originally posted by Pretender
Tive agora a ver o site da thermalright e o meu slk 800-u não pode ser usado :s

alias, pode mas desde que com o neoplate
DFI NF2 ULTRA B - NO *Can use NEO back-plate to install
INFINITY NF2 ULTRA - NO *Can use NEO back-plate to install

http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_neobackplate.htm


onde é que posso comprar esse "acessorio", o neo-plate? a propria thermalright devia fornecer gratuitamente a quem comprou um slk800-u (ou sp-97) que tb não dá...

embora a culpa tb seja dos pseudo-engenheiros da dfi que ao fazerem o layout da board, fizeram-no com o olho de trás :mad:

Também já tinha visto isso no site da termalright para confirmar se a motherboard suportava o heatsink, acho que o dima consegue puxar uns cordelinhos para meter a neo back plate na loja ;)

Pretender
02-05-2004, 17:59
Originally posted by EstilhaS
Também já tinha visto isso no site da termalright para confirmar se a motherboard suportava o heatsink, acho que o dima consegue puxar uns cordelinhos para meter a neo back plate na loja ;)

se conseguir arranjar (e o preço for bom claro :P), até sou capaz de mudar pra DFI :D ... logo se verá ;)

Bruno Manso
07-06-2004, 18:59
Bem, eu tenho um Zalman instalado numa DFI Lanparty, e esta na boa.
Os suportes nao chegam a tocar nas resistências :venerar:
Mesmo assim, há que ter muito cuidado com isso, pois algumas boards vêm 5*, outras nem por isso.

Cumprimentos......

:D

oldmaxx
11-11-2004, 16:08
no caso de blocos da aqua-computer (o cuplex evo e o cuplex PRO) é necssário algum cuidado pois as porcas usadas na fixação dos parafusos ficam mm muito proximas, mas para alem disso num há problemas

Peterboss
26-12-2005, 15:36
Boas ppl, Há algum problema um bloco do WC da thermaltake numa DFI Lanparty nf4 ultra d??cumpts